The Facebook post stated "Claiming that income tax is moral, is a claim that slavery is moral.".
That's a completely reasonable statement. But someone then posted a comment saying, "Wealth tax is required." Whatever a "wealth tax" is.
I responded with a link to my "Theft by any other name" video.
She replied, "No taxes, no army. No army, no defence. No defence, no state. No state, no laws. No laws, no peace."
I said,
"I don't need a theft-funded army for my defense. Why would you imagine you do?
The state is your enemy, or you don't understand what the State is. http://famguardian.org/.../OurEnemyTheState...
http://mises.org/daily/2352
There are only two kinds of "law": the unnecessary and the harmful. Which type do you imagine promotes peace?
"Laws" against actual wrongs (murder, theft, rape, kidnapping, assault, trespass, etc.) are unnecessary. These "laws" aren't necessary for you to have the right to defend yourself from these acts.
"Laws" against anything else (vices, trade, tools of defense, resisting government theft and aggression, etc.) -- AND "laws" allowing government employees to commit the actual wrongs in the first list as long as they are called something else (taxation, war, officer safety, arrest, airport security, etc.), are harmful.
Your argument fails."
Yeah, I probably shouldn't have included the last sentence.
Her dismissive last shot? "neat. Don't complicate a complex argument and sleep tight! 😁"
So is she saying her comment was "complex"? I guess she's too deep a thinker for me.
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When she said "no peace" she probably should have said "no imposed order". Imposed order on the surface can look like peace, but it isn't. Peace exists when people with different opinions co-exist and simply agree to leave others alone as long as they are left alone etc. . No forcible hierarchy.
ReplyDeleteImposed order (often mistaken for peace) is when there is a threat of force for noncompliance with the top members of the hierarchy. People comply not because they are honoring other people, because they are afraid of what the hierarchy will do to them.
"No illusion of peace". Like when the parents say "Settle down" because the kids are bothering them, not because they are hurting each other. Hurt each other quietly and those kinds of parents are pretty much OK with it. Just don't bother them.
DeleteA state which gains its members or subjects thru involuntary means can never bring "peace", since any peace is already violated by the involuntary inclusion of subjects by the state etc.
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